System has been tampered with

"Wendy R" wrote in message

> I've been having this problem for a while. Most of the time when I turn
> off my pc and then start the next morning, I get the message "176 the
> system has been tampered with. The keyboard is locked. Turn off and then
> turn on your computer."
>
> In addition to that, I receive various messages at times. This morning I
> also got "RF ID tag has changed. 184 Asset Control antenna not detected.
> ...System Security."
>
> I have used system restore back to a time that I believe was before I
> started receiving these messages but to no avail. I have run adaware and
> sypware a few times thinking that may be the problem and that didn't work.
>
> Is this a serious problem that can end up in a system crash? Or just an
> ongoing nuisance that can continue to be resolved by turning off then on
> my pc?
>
> How can I fix whatever the problem is?
>
> Thank you very much for your help. I appreciate it.
>
> --
> Wendy
> check out my store!
> www.booxtop.com

You apparently have a machine with asset control hardware sensors, and they
may be failing. When, exactly, do these messages appear? Right at
startup before any of the Windows screens?

These messages often come from the BIOS level and don't have much of
anything to do with the operating system, though they may pass messages to
it. Spyware tools and system restores will probably not come anywhere near
where the problem is actually located.

It is possible - if your machine is used and was obtained from a large
company - that it has some asset control software running as a service. If
you locate this (MSCONFIG, the Services tab can help you with this) you can
simply disable it.

You might want to look closely at the security settings in the machine's
BIOS, and turn off whatever appears to be related to this. Past that, find
a service manual for that machine - if you look carefully at the
manufacturer's site you should be able to find that- and disconnect the
sensors, after turning off the BIOS settings. You might need to have some
small amount of professional service for this.

HTH
-pk
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Yes, the messages are before the Windows page at startup. Need to turn off
and on 1 to 3 times before it will go to the Windows page. Yes, this pc came
from an insurance company. I will try to snoop around to find what you have
mentioned. Can you point me in the right direction to find (MSCONFIG, the
Services tab can help you with this)? Sorry...not very adept at hardware
stuff.

thanks again!

--
Wendy
check out my store!
www.booxtop.com
"Patrick Keenan" wrote in message

> "Wendy R" wrote in message
>
>> I've been having this problem for a while. Most of the time when I turn
>> off my pc and then start the next morning, I get the message "176 the
>> system has been tampered with. The keyboard is locked. Turn off and then
>> turn on your computer."
>>
>> In addition to that, I receive various messages at times. This morning I
>> also got "RF ID tag has changed. 184 Asset Control antenna not detected.
>> ...System Security."
>>
>> I have used system restore back to a time that I believe was before I
>> started receiving these messages but to no avail. I have run adaware and
>> sypware a few times thinking that may be the problem and that didn't
>> work.
>>
>> Is this a serious problem that can end up in a system crash? Or just an
>> ongoing nuisance that can continue to be resolved by turning off then on
>> my pc?
>>
>> How can I fix whatever the problem is?
>>
>> Thank you very much for your help. I appreciate it.
>>
>> --
>> Wendy
>> check out my store!
>> www.booxtop.com
>
> You apparently have a machine with asset control hardware sensors, and
> they may be failing. When, exactly, do these messages appear? Right at
> startup before any of the Windows screens?
>
> These messages often come from the BIOS level and don't have much of
> anything to do with the operating system, though they may pass messages to
> it. Spyware tools and system restores will probably not come anywhere
> near where the problem is actually located.
>
> It is possible - if your machine is used and was obtained from a large
> company - that it has some asset control software running as a service.
> If you locate this (MSCONFIG, the Services tab can help you with this) you
> can simply disable it.
>
> You might want to look closely at the security settings in the machine's
> BIOS, and turn off whatever appears to be related to this. Past that,
> find a service manual for that machine - if you look carefully at the
> manufacturer's site you should be able to find that- and disconnect the
> sensors, after turning off the BIOS settings. You might need to have
> some small amount of professional service for this.
>
> HTH
> -pk
>
 >> Stay informed about: System has been tampered with 

"Wendy R" wrote in message

> I've been having this problem for a while. Most of the time when I turn
off
> my pc and then start the next morning, I get the message "176 the system
has
> been tampered with. The keyboard is locked. Turn off and then turn on your
> computer."
>
> In addition to that, I receive various messages at times. This morning I
> also got "RF ID tag has changed. 184 Asset Control antenna not detected.
> ...System Security."
>
> I have used system restore back to a time that I believe was before I
> started receiving these messages but to no avail. I have run adaware and
> sypware a few times thinking that may be the problem and that didn't work.
>
> Is this a serious problem that can end up in a system crash? Or just an
> ongoing nuisance that can continue to be resolved by turning off then on
my
> pc?
>
> How can I fix whatever the problem is?
>
> Thank you very much for your help. I appreciate it.
>
> --
> Wendy
> check out my store!
> www.booxtop.com
>
>

Does this machine belong to YOU, or your employer?

From some of the stuff you've described, is sounds like a
corporate machine that's been locked down in various ways.

If this is true, take it to IT and get it fixed. It isn't yours
to play with.

If this is NOT true, chekc Event Viewer for other
clues and let us know what you find.
 >> Stay informed about: System has been tampered with 

"Wendy R" wrote in message

> Yes, the messages are before the Windows page at startup. Need to turn off
> and on 1 to 3 times before it will go to the Windows page. Yes, this pc
> came from an insurance company. I will try to snoop around to find what
> you have mentioned. Can you point me in the right direction to find
> (MSCONFIG, the Services tab can help you with this)? Sorry...not very
> adept at hardware stuff.
>
> thanks again!

Start Windows, and go to Start, Run, and type MSCONFIG, then press enter.
it should start and there is a tab for 'services'. This lists the things
that run as services, and you'll need to go through the lists to see if any
of them are related to asset management software. When you identify these,
de-select them and restart the machine. However, the problem arises before
Windows knows anything about this.

The place to start is in the BIOS. Hopefully they didn't password protect
that - if so, you'll need to try to get the password. If it is password
protected and you can't get the password, contact the manufacturer for a
workaround or a way to clear the password. This isn't always easy.

You should have a look at the manufacturer's site to see if you can find the
system manuals, which will tell you what settings to change.

HTH
-pk


>
> --
> Wendy
> check out my store!
> www.booxtop.com
> "Patrick Keenan" wrote in message
>
>> "Wendy R" wrote in message
>>
>>> I've been having this problem for a while. Most of the time when I turn
>>> off my pc and then start the next morning, I get the message "176 the
>>> system has been tampered with. The keyboard is locked. Turn off and then
>>> turn on your computer."
>>>
>>> In addition to that, I receive various messages at times. This morning I
>>> also got "RF ID tag has changed. 184 Asset Control antenna not detected.
>>> ...System Security."
>>>
>>> I have used system restore back to a time that I believe was before I
>>> started receiving these messages but to no avail. I have run adaware and
>>> sypware a few times thinking that may be the problem and that didn't
>>> work.
>>>
>>> Is this a serious problem that can end up in a system crash? Or just an
>>> ongoing nuisance that can continue to be resolved by turning off then on
>>> my pc?
>>>
>>> How can I fix whatever the problem is?
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for your help. I appreciate it.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Wendy
>>> check out my store!
>>> www.booxtop.com
>>
>> You apparently have a machine with asset control hardware sensors, and
>> they may be failing. When, exactly, do these messages appear? Right
>> at startup before any of the Windows screens?
>>
>> These messages often come from the BIOS level and don't have much of
>> anything to do with the operating system, though they may pass messages
>> to it. Spyware tools and system restores will probably not come
>> anywhere near where the problem is actually located.
>>
>> It is possible - if your machine is used and was obtained from a large
>> company - that it has some asset control software running as a service.
>> If you locate this (MSCONFIG, the Services tab can help you with this)
>> you can simply disable it.
>>
>> You might want to look closely at the security settings in the machine's
>> BIOS, and turn off whatever appears to be related to this. Past that,
>> find a service manual for that machine - if you look carefully at the
>> manufacturer's site you should be able to find that- and disconnect the
>> sensors, after turning off the BIOS settings. You might need to have
>> some small amount of professional service for this.
>>
>> HTH
>> -pk
>>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: System has been tampered with 

This was a surplus pc from an insurance company that went out of business.
They gave these to a few select 'former' employees.

Where do I find Event Viewer?

--
Wendy
check out my store!
www.booxtop.com
"V Green" wrote in message

>
> "Wendy R" wrote in message
>
>> I've been having this problem for a while. Most of the time when I turn
> off
>> my pc and then start the next morning, I get the message "176 the system
> has
>> been tampered with. The keyboard is locked. Turn off and then turn on
>> your
>> computer."
>>
>> In addition to that, I receive various messages at times. This morning I
>> also got "RF ID tag has changed. 184 Asset Control antenna not detected.
>> ...System Security."
>>
>> I have used system restore back to a time that I believe was before I
>> started receiving these messages but to no avail. I have run adaware and
>> sypware a few times thinking that may be the problem and that didn't
>> work.
>>
>> Is this a serious problem that can end up in a system crash? Or just an
>> ongoing nuisance that can continue to be resolved by turning off then on
> my
>> pc?
>>
>> How can I fix whatever the problem is?
>>
>> Thank you very much for your help. I appreciate it.
>>
>> --
>> Wendy
>> check out my store!
>> www.booxtop.com
>>
>>
>
> Does this machine belong to YOU, or your employer?
>
> From some of the stuff you've described, is sounds like a
> corporate machine that's been locked down in various ways.
>
> If this is true, take it to IT and get it fixed. It isn't yours
> to play with.
>
> If this is NOT true, chekc Event Viewer for other
> clues and let us know what you find.
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: System has been tampered with 

"Wendy R" wrote in message

> This was a surplus pc from an insurance company that went out of business.
> They gave these to a few select 'former' employees.
>
> Where do I find Event Viewer?

Control Panel>>Administrative Tools. Look for stuff
in System related to the messages you described.

I know this may not be what you want to hear, but
your best two options with this thing may be:

live with this stuff and just keep restarting when it asks

buy a new copy of XP and install from scratch

There's corporate things afoot in this machine, a holdover
from its previous life. Hardware based, from the sound
of it, and may be hard to get rid of.

What make/model is it? If the thing has RFID hardware
embedded in it, there may be a way to turn it off.

>
> --
> Wendy
> check out my store!
> www.booxtop.com
> "V Green" wrote in message
>
> >
> > "Wendy R" wrote in message
> >
> >> I've been having this problem for a while. Most of the time when I turn
> > off
> >> my pc and then start the next morning, I get the message "176 the
system
> > has
> >> been tampered with. The keyboard is locked. Turn off and then turn on
> >> your
> >> computer."
> >>
> >> In addition to that, I receive various messages at times. This morning
I
> >> also got "RF ID tag has changed. 184 Asset Control antenna not
detected.
> >> ...System Security."
> >>
> >> I have used system restore back to a time that I believe was before I
> >> started receiving these messages but to no avail. I have run adaware
and
> >> sypware a few times thinking that may be the problem and that didn't
> >> work.
> >>
> >> Is this a serious problem that can end up in a system crash? Or just an
> >> ongoing nuisance that can continue to be resolved by turning off then
on
> > my
> >> pc?
> >>
> >> How can I fix whatever the problem is?
> >>
> >> Thank you very much for your help. I appreciate it.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Wendy
> >> check out my store!
> >> www.booxtop.com
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Does this machine belong to YOU, or your employer?
> >
> > From some of the stuff you've described, is sounds like a
> > corporate machine that's been locked down in various ways.
> >
> > If this is true, take it to IT and get it fixed. It isn't yours
> > to play with.
> >
> > If this is NOT true, chekc Event Viewer for other
> > clues and let us know what you find.
> >
> >
>
>
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It's an old IBM PC 300PL. If I can turn off the RFID, great. I am also
willing to live with it....if this isn't an indication of major system
problems down the road. I'm afraid that one day I won't be able to turn it
on. If these errors can remain nothing more than a nuisance, I have no
problem with it.

Also, the PC was supposedly "wiped clean" before I got it. I installed XP
new on the machine (couple of times actually) and a new Maxtor HD. Don't
know if this is a factor at all, but I've have the PC standing on it's side
for over a year under my desk -- should be ok but wonder sometimes if it's
not.

thanks again.
--
Wendy
check out my store!
www.booxtop.com
"V Green" wrote in message

>
> "Wendy R" wrote in message
>
>> This was a surplus pc from an insurance company that went out of
>> business.
>> They gave these to a few select 'former' employees.
>>
>> Where do I find Event Viewer?
>
> Control Panel>>Administrative Tools. Look for stuff
> in System related to the messages you described.
>
> I know this may not be what you want to hear, but
> your best two options with this thing may be:
>
> live with this stuff and just keep restarting when it asks
>
> buy a new copy of XP and install from scratch
>
> There's corporate things afoot in this machine, a holdover
> from its previous life. Hardware based, from the sound
> of it, and may be hard to get rid of.
>
> What make/model is it? If the thing has RFID hardware
> embedded in it, there may be a way to turn it off.
>
>>
>> --
>> Wendy
>> check out my store!
>> www.booxtop.com
>> "V Green" wrote in message
>>
>> >
>> > "Wendy R" wrote in message
>> >
>> >> I've been having this problem for a while. Most of the time when I
>> >> turn
>> > off
>> >> my pc and then start the next morning, I get the message "176 the
> system
>> > has
>> >> been tampered with. The keyboard is locked. Turn off and then turn on
>> >> your
>> >> computer."
>> >>
>> >> In addition to that, I receive various messages at times. This morning
> I
>> >> also got "RF ID tag has changed. 184 Asset Control antenna not
> detected.
>> >> ...System Security."
>> >>
>> >> I have used system restore back to a time that I believe was before I
>> >> started receiving these messages but to no avail. I have run adaware
> and
>> >> sypware a few times thinking that may be the problem and that didn't
>> >> work.
>> >>
>> >> Is this a serious problem that can end up in a system crash? Or just
>> >> an
>> >> ongoing nuisance that can continue to be resolved by turning off then
> on
>> > my
>> >> pc?
>> >>
>> >> How can I fix whatever the problem is?
>> >>
>> >> Thank you very much for your help. I appreciate it.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Wendy
>> >> check out my store!
>> >> www.booxtop.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > Does this machine belong to YOU, or your employer?
>> >
>> > From some of the stuff you've described, is sounds like a
>> > corporate machine that's been locked down in various ways.
>> >
>> > If this is true, take it to IT and get it fixed. It isn't yours
>> > to play with.
>> >
>> > If this is NOT true, chekc Event Viewer for other
>> > clues and let us know what you find.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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Well, you have a lot of reading to do...

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=ibm&l...cid=MIG

If this thing actually contains this security stuff, maybe you
can find some info on how to deal with it.

After familiarizing yourself with some of the "features"
of this, look for things related to it in Device Manager
and DISABLE them, AFTER backing up everything.

Or just keep doing what you've been doing

"Wendy R" wrote in message

> It's an old IBM PC 300PL. If I can turn off the RFID, great. I am also
> willing to live with it....if this isn't an indication of major system
> problems down the road. I'm afraid that one day I won't be able to turn it
> on. If these errors can remain nothing more than a nuisance, I have no
> problem with it.
>
> Also, the PC was supposedly "wiped clean" before I got it. I installed XP
> new on the machine (couple of times actually) and a new Maxtor HD. Don't
> know if this is a factor at all, but I've have the PC standing on it's
side
> for over a year under my desk -- should be ok but wonder sometimes if it's
> not.
>
> thanks again.
> --
> Wendy
> check out my store!
> www.booxtop.com
> "V Green" wrote in message
>
> >
> > "Wendy R" wrote in message
> >
> >> This was a surplus pc from an insurance company that went out of
> >> business.
> >> They gave these to a few select 'former' employees.
> >>
> >> Where do I find Event Viewer?
> >
> > Control Panel>>Administrative Tools. Look for stuff
> > in System related to the messages you described.
> >
> > I know this may not be what you want to hear, but
> > your best two options with this thing may be:
> >
> > live with this stuff and just keep restarting when it asks
> >
> > buy a new copy of XP and install from scratch
> >
> > There's corporate things afoot in this machine, a holdover
> > from its previous life. Hardware based, from the sound
> > of it, and may be hard to get rid of.
> >
> > What make/model is it? If the thing has RFID hardware
> > embedded in it, there may be a way to turn it off.
> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> Wendy
> >> check out my store!
> >> www.booxtop.com
> >> "V Green" wrote in message
> >>
> >> >
> >> > "Wendy R" wrote in message
> >> >
> >> >> I've been having this problem for a while. Most of the time when I
> >> >> turn
> >> > off
> >> >> my pc and then start the next morning, I get the message "176 the
> > system
> >> > has
> >> >> been tampered with. The keyboard is locked. Turn off and then turn
on
> >> >> your
> >> >> computer."
> >> >>
> >> >> In addition to that, I receive various messages at times. This
morning
> > I
> >> >> also got "RF ID tag has changed. 184 Asset Control antenna not
> > detected.
> >> >> ...System Security."
> >> >>
> >> >> I have used system restore back to a time that I believe was before
I
> >> >> started receiving these messages but to no avail. I have run adaware
> > and
> >> >> sypware a few times thinking that may be the problem and that didn't
> >> >> work.
> >> >>
> >> >> Is this a serious problem that can end up in a system crash? Or just
> >> >> an
> >> >> ongoing nuisance that can continue to be resolved by turning off
then
> > on
> >> > my
> >> >> pc?
> >> >>
> >> >> How can I fix whatever the problem is?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank you very much for your help. I appreciate it.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Wendy
> >> >> check out my store!
> >> >> www.booxtop.com
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Does this machine belong to YOU, or your employer?
> >> >
> >> > From some of the stuff you've described, is sounds like a
> >> > corporate machine that's been locked down in various ways.
> >> >
> >> > If this is true, take it to IT and get it fixed. It isn't yours
> >> > to play with.
> >> >
> >> > If this is NOT true, chekc Event Viewer for other
> >> > clues and let us know what you find.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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The answer is bad capacitors! I know it sounds imposible and I didn't
believe it but I had the EXACT same error message and did a search on
googl look here:
forum.java.sun.com/thread. jspa?threadID=569551&tstart=60

read the whole thread look at the pics and buy some capacitors!!

Wendy R wrote:
> *I've been having this problem for a while. Most of the time when I
> turn off
> my pc and then start the next morning, I get the message "176 the
> system has
> been tampered with. The keyboard is locked. Turn off and then turn on
> your
> computer."
>
> In addition to that, I receive various messages at times. This
> morning I
> also got "RF ID tag has changed. 184 Asset Control antenna not
> detected.
> .....System Security."
>
> I have used system restore back to a time that I believe was before
> I
> started receiving these messages but to no avail. I have run adaware
> and
> sypware a few times thinking that may be the problem and that didn't
> work.
>
> Is this a serious problem that can end up in a system crash? Or just
> an
> ongoing nuisance that can continue to be resolved by turning off then
> on my
> pc?
>
> How can I fix whatever the problem is?
>
> Thank you very much for your help. I appreciate it.
>
> --
> Wendy
> check out my store!
> www.booxtop.com *



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Thank you! How to I see the thread? I pasted the url into my browser and it
said the thread is unavailable.

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"bnakano" wrote in message

>
> The answer is bad capacitors! I know it sounds imposible and I didn't
> believe it but I had the EXACT same error message and did a search on
> googl look here:
> forum.java.sun.com/thread. jspa?threadID=569551&tstart=60
>
> read the whole thread look at the pics and buy some capacitors!!
>
> Wendy R wrote:
>> *I've been having this problem for a while. Most of the time when I
>> turn off
>> my pc and then start the next morning, I get the message "176 the
>> system has
>> been tampered with. The keyboard is locked. Turn off and then turn on
>> your
>> computer."
>>
>> In addition to that, I receive various messages at times. This
>> morning I
>> also got "RF ID tag has changed. 184 Asset Control antenna not
>> detected.
>> .....System Security."
>>
>> I have used system restore back to a time that I believe was before
>> I
>> started receiving these messages but to no avail. I have run adaware
>> and
>> sypware a few times thinking that may be the problem and that didn't
>> work.
>>
>> Is this a serious problem that can end up in a system crash? Or just
>> an
>> ongoing nuisance that can continue to be resolved by turning off then
>> on my
>> pc?
>>
>> How can I fix whatever the problem is?
>>
>> Thank you very much for your help. I appreciate it.
>>
>> --
>> Wendy
>> check out my store!
>> www.booxtop.com *
>
>
>
> --
> bnakano
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bnakano -- you da man!! I began to experience weirdness with one of my IBM 300PL's just like the reports here. I thought I had a virus, I thought the security feature had somehow activated itself and finally I thought that this PC was going to become a boat anchor .... BUT I found your advice on the capacitors .... replaced them today ... and it works like new. Thanks so much for taking the time to educate us.

Nick
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I have an IBM 300pl and saw your post about replacing the capacitors on your motherboard. How did you identify the capacitors that needed to be replaced? Did you replace them yourself? Was this costly to do? Please advise.

Thank you!
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Did you get this fixed?
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