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Dante

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Since: Jun 27, 2004
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 3:03 am
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I think you should got to Start > ControlPanel > System > Select Device
Manager > and while the drive is plugged in locate the USB flash drive and
uninstall it. Then unplug it, wait 10 seconds or so, and then plug it back
in. Windows may recognize it properly the next time. As added probability
of success, after uninstalling, and unpluging the drive, restart the
computer, and then plug it back in.



"rickbrem" wrote in message

> Many thanks ... I'm on it!
> --
> Richard Gruen
>
>
> "McSpreader" wrote:
>
>> "=?Utf-8?B?cmlja2JyZW0=?=" wrote in
>>
>>
>> > Again, thx.
>> > The drive does work in another computer, but three flash drives
>> > do not function in this one.
>> > I just came back from a techie who explained that the USB slot
>> > on the front of the computer was probably 1.1, but that those in
>> > the back were 2.0. I used the supplied cable and tried that
>> > route, once again with no luck ... no functionality at all, even
>> > at a slower speed. My computer still fails to recognize the
>> > drive at all. Do you think I need some other controller to make
>> > it function?
>>
>> OK, looks like it is problem with the PC. IME Windows XP is pretty
>> good at handling USB flash drives. As your PC doesn't recognise the
>> new device via P&P, my prime suspect would be the motherboard
>> firmware.
>>
>> Try updating to the most recent BIOS for your motherboar.
>>
>> If that doesn't help, I'd try adding a USB2 PCI card.
>>

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Chris Priede

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:37 am
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Hi,

rickbrem wrote:
> The drive does work in another computer, but three flash
> drives do not function in this one.

What you've been told is correct. The message you receive is informational.
You are focusing on the wrong thing, while your flash drive isn't working
for some other reason.

Plug it in, give it a few seconds, then go to "Start" -> "Run", and type in
"diskmgmt.msc". See if it shows your drive (as a removable drive) and what
drive letter (if any) has been assigned to it. Report back here.

There is a fairly common issue with flash drives ending up with the same
drive letter as previously mapped network drives, effectively making them
invisible. If you see that the drive has been assigned a drive letter used
by something else in your setup, right click it and change the drive letter
to an unused one.

In the unlikely event Disk Management shows the flash drive as having
unallocated space or unknown type partition, you should consider
partitioning and/or formatting it. Keep in mind that will destroy any data
presently on the drive.


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(Msg. 18) Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:15 pm
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Check my computer. What drives are listed there. List all
of them. I suspect the system is trying to give a drive letter that is
already in use.


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"rickbrem" wrote in message

> My 'puter's probably about 4 years old ... you may well have hit upon the
> problem ... age gets us all!
> Thx/Rick
> --
> Richard Gruen
>
>
> "Peter Foldes" wrote:
>
>> Rick how old is that motherboard that you have in that computer. Newer
>> motherboards support USB 2.0 high speed. Older boards did have only
>> LIMITED support
>>
>> --
>> Peter
>>
>> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
>> Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
>>
>> "rickbrem" wrote in message
>>
>> > Many thanks for responding, but I'm still confused. If the drive
>> > worked
>> > w/ME, why wouldn't it work w/XP? Did I lose functionality with the
>> > upgrade
>> > of OS!!!??? If you tell me I did, I'll run right out and get that 2.0
>> > card,
>> > but I'll be scratching my head with one hand whilst driving with the
>> > other!
>> > --
>> > Richard Gruen
>> >
>> >
>> > "Ted Zieglar" wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Hi-speed" means the higher speed USB 2.0 specification. You can buy a
>> >> USB
>> >> 2.0 card at any store that sells computers. However, Windows XP
>> >> supports the
>> >> lower speed as well.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Ted Zieglar
>> >> "You can do it if you try."
>> >>
>> >> "rickbrem" wrote in message
>> >>
>> >> > Using XP. When I try to install a USB 2.0 Flash Drive I get an
>> >> > error
>> >> message
>> >> > telling me that I need a hi-speed controller. Can anyone tell me
>> >> > what
>> >> this
>> >> > means, how I do it? (Before I updated from ME to XP, this flash
>> >> > drive
>> >> > worked!)
>> >> > Many thanks.
>> >> > --
>> >> > Richard Gruen
>> >>
>> >>
>>
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Vernon GT

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:16 am
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G'day Rick,
Here I was yesterday thinking the I, "Robinson Crusoe" was alone with this
problem. I just purchased a "Hi-Speed USB 2.0 Flash Drive" from New Egg,
which on the "blurb" card in the packaging states "Fully Compatible with USB
1.1 and Hi-Speed USB 2.0"
Even if my computer only had USB 1.1 controllers, it should work? Right?
Wrong!!!
Same Schmidt... Different Day!!!
The reason I purchased this "Thumb Drive" was so I could carry big gobs of
files (mainly photos) in my pocket as I traveled and be able to stuff my
'drive' into someone else's USB port and show them my photo collection etc.
Chee!
Have you or anyone else come up with some kind of answer to this problem and
also, will I constantly have this issue with every other computer I stick my
"Thumb" into? Have I purchased a 'high-priced' lure for my next bass fishing
trip or what?
Can you Rick, or anyone else email me if you have a fix?
Vernon


"rickbrem" wrote:

> Using XP. When I try to install a USB 2.0 Flash Drive I get an error message
> telling me that I need a hi-speed controller. Can anyone tell me what this
> means, how I do it? (Before I updated from ME to XP, this flash drive
> worked!)
> Many thanks.
> --
> Richard Gruen
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Anna

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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:44 pm
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"Vernon GT" wrote in message

> G'day Rick,
> Here I was yesterday thinking the I, "Robinson Crusoe" was alone with this
> problem. I just purchased a "Hi-Speed USB 2.0 Flash Drive" from New Egg,
> which on the "blurb" card in the packaging states "Fully Compatible with
> USB
> 1.1 and Hi-Speed USB 2.0"
> Even if my computer only had USB 1.1 controllers, it should work? Right?
> Wrong!!!
> Same Schmidt... Different Day!!!
> The reason I purchased this "Thumb Drive" was so I could carry big gobs of
> files (mainly photos) in my pocket as I traveled and be able to stuff my
> 'drive' into someone else's USB port and show them my photo collection
> etc.
> Chee!
> Have you or anyone else come up with some kind of answer to this problem
> and
> also, will I constantly have this issue with every other computer I stick
> my
> "Thumb" into? Have I purchased a 'high-priced' lure for my next bass
> fishing
> trip or what?
> Can you Rick, or anyone else email me if you have a fix?
> Vernon
>
>
> "rickbrem" wrote:
>
>> Using XP. When I try to install a USB 2.0 Flash Drive I get an error
>> message
>> telling me that I need a hi-speed controller. Can anyone tell me what
>> this
>> means, how I do it? (Before I updated from ME to XP, this flash drive
>> worked!)
>> Many thanks.
>> --
>> Richard Gruen


Vernon:
I don't think this refers to the precise problem you're raising but take a
look at this anyway...
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;835967

So what *is* your precise problem? You insert the flash drive into one of
your USB ports and nothing? The system doesn't recognize its existence? Not
listed in Windows Explorer? No "Safely Remove Hardware" icon in the
notification area of your Desktop?

Have other USB devices that you use work? A USB printer? Camera? Whatever?

Assuming you have more than one USB port on your computer, the same problem
regardless of whether the device is plugged into another USB port?

Have you tried the device in another computer? Think it might be just a
simple matter of a defective device?

Some of these flash drives have a tiny switch on the device (barely
recognizable) that, in effect, "turns off" the device. Can you check that?

When you access Device Manager, any clue in the USB controllers section?
Anna
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Vernon GT

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(Msg. 21) Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:44 pm
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G'day Anna,
When I first plug my Flash Drive into the USB port, I get a balloon by the
'task tray' indicating "This Device can perform faster" (click here).
Upon clicking that balloon, I get a 'tree' of USB controller and ports
(similar to what you see in Device Mgr). My USB Mass Storage Device is
highlighted, and above that list is a comment: "There are no HI-SPEED USB
host controllers on this computer." and below the list is the
'recommendation' that indicates "I must add a HI_SPEED USB host controller to
this computer to obtain Maximum performance."
My question is How do I add such a controller?
I checked in Device Mgr and the "USB Mass Storage Device" has a yellow (!)
over the USB icon at left. Upon 'right clicking' and choosing "Properties" I
see in the 'General tab' under Device status the comment "This device cannot
start (Code 10), which to a layman computer user such as I doesn't help much.
I know my way round a computer fairly (small 'f') well, but as for adding a
HI-SPEED USB Host Controller, I don't know.
Can you help here Anna? I'd be grateful.



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"Anna" wrote:

>
> "Vernon GT" wrote in message
>
> > G'day Rick,
> > Here I was yesterday thinking the I, "Robinson Crusoe" was alone with this
> > problem. I just purchased a "Hi-Speed USB 2.0 Flash Drive" from New Egg,
> > which on the "blurb" card in the packaging states "Fully Compatible with
> > USB
> > 1.1 and Hi-Speed USB 2.0"
> > Even if my computer only had USB 1.1 controllers, it should work? Right?
> > Wrong!!!
> > Same Schmidt... Different Day!!!
> > The reason I purchased this "Thumb Drive" was so I could carry big gobs of
> > files (mainly photos) in my pocket as I traveled and be able to stuff my
> > 'drive' into someone else's USB port and show them my photo collection
> > etc.
> > Chee!
> > Have you or anyone else come up with some kind of answer to this problem
> > and
> > also, will I constantly have this issue with every other computer I stick
> > my
> > "Thumb" into? Have I purchased a 'high-priced' lure for my next bass
> > fishing
> > trip or what?
> > Can you Rick, or anyone else email me if you have a fix?
> > Vernon
> >
> >
> > "rickbrem" wrote:
> >
> >> Using XP. When I try to install a USB 2.0 Flash Drive I get an error
> >> message
> >> telling me that I need a hi-speed controller. Can anyone tell me what
> >> this
> >> means, how I do it? (Before I updated from ME to XP, this flash drive
> >> worked!)
> >> Many thanks.
> >> --
> >> Richard Gruen
>
>
> Vernon:
> I don't think this refers to the precise problem you're raising but take a
> look at this anyway...
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;835967
>
> So what *is* your precise problem? You insert the flash drive into one of
> your USB ports and nothing? The system doesn't recognize its existence? Not
> listed in Windows Explorer? No "Safely Remove Hardware" icon in the
> notification area of your Desktop?
>
> Have other USB devices that you use work? A USB printer? Camera? Whatever?
>
> Assuming you have more than one USB port on your computer, the same problem
> regardless of whether the device is plugged into another USB port?
>
> Have you tried the device in another computer? Think it might be just a
> simple matter of a defective device?
>
> Some of these flash drives have a tiny switch on the device (barely
> recognizable) that, in effect, "turns off" the device. Can you check that?
>
> When you access Device Manager, any clue in the USB controllers section?
> Anna
>
>
>
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:44 pm
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Anna,
I neglected to mention that I also have a "SimpleTech" 256Mb Flash Drive and
a "Sony" 128Mb "Micro Vault" Flash Drive and they both work where this
"Newegg" 8Gb Flash Drive doesn't.
This PC is a AMD 1Gb (about 4 yrs old). I also have a new Dimension E521 (XP
Pro) Dual Core AMD and it 'kinda' works in it.
In addition, I have a Dell Latitude (Pentium III) and have similar problems.
My Computer on both the Latitude and the AMD 1Gb don't indicate any
existance of the "Removable Drive" device.
On my Dell Dimension E521 'Dual Core AMD 64) it works as it should. The
"Thumb Drive" shows as "Thumb Drive E:\Removable Disk" within 'My Computer'
Cheers again.
Vernon


"Anna" wrote:

>
> "Vernon GT" wrote in message
>
> > G'day Rick,
> > Here I was yesterday thinking the I, "Robinson Crusoe" was alone with this
> > problem. I just purchased a "Hi-Speed USB 2.0 Flash Drive" from New Egg,
> > which on the "blurb" card in the packaging states "Fully Compatible with
> > USB
> > 1.1 and Hi-Speed USB 2.0"
> > Even if my computer only had USB 1.1 controllers, it should work? Right?
> > Wrong!!!
> > Same Schmidt... Different Day!!!
> > The reason I purchased this "Thumb Drive" was so I could carry big gobs of
> > files (mainly photos) in my pocket as I traveled and be able to stuff my
> > 'drive' into someone else's USB port and show them my photo collection
> > etc.
> > Chee!
> > Have you or anyone else come up with some kind of answer to this problem
> > and
> > also, will I constantly have this issue with every other computer I stick
> > my
> > "Thumb" into? Have I purchased a 'high-priced' lure for my next bass
> > fishing
> > trip or what?
> > Can you Rick, or anyone else email me if you have a fix?
> > Vernon
> >
> >
> > "rickbrem" wrote:
> >
> >> Using XP. When I try to install a USB 2.0 Flash Drive I get an error
> >> message
> >> telling me that I need a hi-speed controller. Can anyone tell me what
> >> this
> >> means, how I do it? (Before I updated from ME to XP, this flash drive
> >> worked!)
> >> Many thanks.
> >> --
> >> Richard Gruen
>
>
> Vernon:
> I don't think this refers to the precise problem you're raising but take a
> look at this anyway...
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;835967
>
> So what *is* your precise problem? You insert the flash drive into one of
> your USB ports and nothing? The system doesn't recognize its existence? Not
> listed in Windows Explorer? No "Safely Remove Hardware" icon in the
> notification area of your Desktop?
>
> Have other USB devices that you use work? A USB printer? Camera? Whatever?
>
> Assuming you have more than one USB port on your computer, the same problem
> regardless of whether the device is plugged into another USB port?
>
> Have you tried the device in another computer? Think it might be just a
> simple matter of a defective device?
>
> Some of these flash drives have a tiny switch on the device (barely
> recognizable) that, in effect, "turns off" the device. Can you check that?
>
> When you access Device Manager, any clue in the USB controllers section?
> Anna
>
>
>
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:19 pm
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Vernon:
The following won't be of much help to you but let me get it out of the
way...

These USB non-recognition problems, especially as they impact on flash
drives and USB external HDDs have been vexing all of us for some time now.
We've become increasingly convinced that the relatively large number of
problems in this area involving the non-recognition of these USB devices
that we've all been experiencing for years now is an indication that there
is something seriously flawed with respect to either the USB 2.0
specifications, possibly involving quality control issues affecting the
manufacturer of these USB devices as well as supporting components such as
motherboards and other USB-related components. Then too, we've become
increasingly suspicious of the XP OS as it relates to its recognition of and
interaction with these USB 2.0 devices.

We have encountered far too many unexplained problems affecting
detection/recognition of these devices and their erratic functioning not to
believe that something is seriously amiss in this area.

We continually encounter situations where a USB 2.0 device - generally
involving a flash drive or USB external hard drive, will work perfectly fine
in one machine and not in another. And, in far too many cases, we're unable
to determine why this is so since we're unable to detect any
hardware/software problem in the balking machine that would cause this
non-recognition effect.

We've put together a more-or-less checklist for troubleshooting these rather
common USB non-recognition problems that (hopefully) may be of some value to
users encountering these non-recognition types of problems as they affect
USB devices. I realize most of these will not be relevant to your situation
since some of these items refer to USB external hard drives but let me list
them anyway for others who may be experiencing more-or-less similar
problems.

1. Access Disk Management and see if the USB device is listed. If so, and
there's no drive letter assigned, see if you can assign a drive letter to
the device.
2. If the USB device is listed in Disk Management with an assigned drive
letter, right-click on its listing and select Explore from the submenu.
Hopefully, Windows Explorer will open and the device will be listed.
3. Connect the USB device *directly* to a USB port on the computer, not via
a USB hub. Try different USB ports should your computer have multiple ports.
4. Avoid using a USB extension cable.
5. Try connecting a USB device (that does not contain an auxiliary power
supply) to a USB port both before and after the boot operation.
6. Where a USB (or Firewire) external HDD is involved, access Device
Manager, highlight the Disk drives listing and click on the Action menu item
and then the "Scan for hardware changes" sub-menu item. Do the same in Disk
Management > Action > Rescan disks.
7. Try alternate powering on/off methods. If the USB device contains its own
power supply, try booting up with its power on, then try powering on only
*after* the system has booted to a Desktop.
8. Try a different USB cable.
9. In the USB controllers section of Device Manager, uninstall all the USB
controllers listed and reboot.
10. If the device in question is not a commercial USB external HDD but
rather one in which you installed a HDD in a USB enclosure, jumper the HDD
as Master (or Single if the HDD is a Western Digital disk). A number of
users have reported that jumper configuration corrected their
non-recognition problem. In my own experience it didn't seem to matter how a
USB external HDD was jumpered. But it may be worth a try.
11. If the device in question is a USB external HDD, first check out the HDD
with the hard drive manufacturer's diagnostic utility. If it checks out OK,
and you can remove the HDD from its enclosure (without voiding any
applicable warranty), do so and install the HDD as an internal HDD to
determine if there are problems with the drive.
12. If the USB device is connected to a USB 2.0 PCI card, try changing the
PCI slot to which it's currently connected to another one.
13. Access the website of the manufacturer of the USB device to determine if
there's any firmware update or info re the problem you're experiencing or
there's any possibility that the USB enclosure itself might be defective.
14. Determine from the manufacturer of your motherboard whether there's a
BIOS upgrade affecting USB device recognition.

P.S.
A number of posters have reported they've found useful information re
troubleshooting USB devices on this
site...http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html

In your situation, assuming the problem can't be resolved in the near
future, since the device in question is one you recently purchased from
newegg, whether it would be best to simply RMA it back to them as a
defective device. But if you *are* able to resolve the problem and get the
device consistently functioning, please keep us informed on how you
accomplished it.
Anna



"Vernon GT" wrote in message

> Anna,
> I neglected to mention that I also have a "SimpleTech" 256Mb Flash Drive
> and
> a "Sony" 128Mb "Micro Vault" Flash Drive and they both work where this
> "Newegg" 8Gb Flash Drive doesn't.
> This PC is a AMD 1Gb (about 4 yrs old). I also have a new Dimension E521
> (XP
> Pro) Dual Core AMD and it 'kinda' works in it.
> In addition, I have a Dell Latitude (Pentium III) and have similar
> problems.
> My Computer on both the Latitude and the AMD 1Gb don't indicate any
> existance of the "Removable Drive" device.
> On my Dell Dimension E521 'Dual Core AMD 64) it works as it should. The
> "Thumb Drive" shows as "Thumb Drive E:\Removable Disk" within 'My
> Computer'
> Cheers again.
> Vernon
>
>
> "Anna" wrote:
>
>>
>> "Vernon GT" wrote in message
>>
>> > G'day Rick,
>> > Here I was yesterday thinking the I, "Robinson Crusoe" was alone with
>> > this
>> > problem. I just purchased a "Hi-Speed USB 2.0 Flash Drive" from New
>> > Egg,
>> > which on the "blurb" card in the packaging states "Fully Compatible
>> > with
>> > USB
>> > 1.1 and Hi-Speed USB 2.0"
>> > Even if my computer only had USB 1.1 controllers, it should work?
>> > Right?
>> > Wrong!!!
>> > Same Schmidt... Different Day!!!
>> > The reason I purchased this "Thumb Drive" was so I could carry big gobs
>> > of
>> > files (mainly photos) in my pocket as I traveled and be able to stuff
>> > my
>> > 'drive' into someone else's USB port and show them my photo collection
>> > etc.
>> > Chee!
>> > Have you or anyone else come up with some kind of answer to this
>> > problem
>> > and
>> > also, will I constantly have this issue with every other computer I
>> > stick
>> > my
>> > "Thumb" into? Have I purchased a 'high-priced' lure for my next bass
>> > fishing
>> > trip or what?
>> > Can you Rick, or anyone else email me if you have a fix?
>> > Vernon
>> >
>> >
>> > "rickbrem" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Using XP. When I try to install a USB 2.0 Flash Drive I get an error
>> >> message
>> >> telling me that I need a hi-speed controller. Can anyone tell me what
>> >> this
>> >> means, how I do it? (Before I updated from ME to XP, this flash drive
>> >> worked!)
>> >> Many thanks.
>> >> --
>> >> Richard Gruen
>>
>>
>> Vernon:
>> I don't think this refers to the precise problem you're raising but take
>> a
>> look at this anyway...
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;835967
>>
>> So what *is* your precise problem? You insert the flash drive into one of
>> your USB ports and nothing? The system doesn't recognize its existence?
>> Not
>> listed in Windows Explorer? No "Safely Remove Hardware" icon in the
>> notification area of your Desktop?
>>
>> Have other USB devices that you use work? A USB printer? Camera?
>> Whatever?
>>
>> Assuming you have more than one USB port on your computer, the same
>> problem
>> regardless of whether the device is plugged into another USB port?
>>
>> Have you tried the device in another computer? Think it might be just a
>> simple matter of a defective device?
>>
>> Some of these flash drives have a tiny switch on the device (barely
>> recognizable) that, in effect, "turns off" the device. Can you check
>> that?
>>
>> When you access Device Manager, any clue in the USB controllers section?
>> Anna
>>
>>
>>
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 5:46 pm
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Anna wrote:
> Vernon:
> The following won't be of much help to you but let me get it out of the
> way...
>
much good advice snipped for brevity....

Another couple of points I've noted:

1. Some of the 'case front' USB ports will not handle devices which need
power from the USB port. If that 8 GB unit is a mini-hard drive, that
could be a factor.

2. I've run into other front ports that had insufficient shielding in
the wiring to the motherboard, that reduced the 2.0 capability to 1.1 speed.
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:55 pm
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Very helpful Anna,

That's a "keeper".

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"Anna" wrote in message

| Vernon:
| The following won't be of much help to you but let me get it out of the
| way...
|
| These USB non-recognition problems, especially as they impact on flash
| drives and USB external HDDs have been vexing all of us for some time now.
| We've become increasingly convinced that the relatively large number of
| problems in this area involving the non-recognition of these USB devices
| that we've all been experiencing for years now is an indication that there
| is something seriously flawed with respect to either the USB 2.0
| specifications, possibly involving quality control issues affecting the
| manufacturer of these USB devices as well as supporting components such as
| motherboards and other USB-related components. Then too, we've become
| increasingly suspicious of the XP OS as it relates to its recognition of
and
| interaction with these USB 2.0 devices.
|
| We have encountered far too many unexplained problems affecting
| detection/recognition of these devices and their erratic functioning not
to
| believe that something is seriously amiss in this area.
|
| We continually encounter situations where a USB 2.0 device - generally
| involving a flash drive or USB external hard drive, will work perfectly
fine
| in one machine and not in another. And, in far too many cases, we're
unable
| to determine why this is so since we're unable to detect any
| hardware/software problem in the balking machine that would cause this
| non-recognition effect.
|
| We've put together a more-or-less checklist for troubleshooting these
rather
| common USB non-recognition problems that (hopefully) may be of some value
to
| users encountering these non-recognition types of problems as they affect
| USB devices. I realize most of these will not be relevant to your
situation
| since some of these items refer to USB external hard drives but let me
list
| them anyway for others who may be experiencing more-or-less similar
| problems.
|
| 1. Access Disk Management and see if the USB device is listed. If so, and
| there's no drive letter assigned, see if you can assign a drive letter to
| the device.
| 2. If the USB device is listed in Disk Management with an assigned drive
| letter, right-click on its listing and select Explore from the submenu.
| Hopefully, Windows Explorer will open and the device will be listed.
| 3. Connect the USB device *directly* to a USB port on the computer, not
via
| a USB hub. Try different USB ports should your computer have multiple
ports.
| 4. Avoid using a USB extension cable.
| 5. Try connecting a USB device (that does not contain an auxiliary power
| supply) to a USB port both before and after the boot operation.
| 6. Where a USB (or Firewire) external HDD is involved, access Device
| Manager, highlight the Disk drives listing and click on the Action menu
item
| and then the "Scan for hardware changes" sub-menu item. Do the same in
Disk
| Management > Action > Rescan disks.
| 7. Try alternate powering on/off methods. If the USB device contains its
own
| power supply, try booting up with its power on, then try powering on only
| *after* the system has booted to a Desktop.
| 8. Try a different USB cable.
| 9. In the USB controllers section of Device Manager, uninstall all the USB
| controllers listed and reboot.
| 10. If the device in question is not a commercial USB external HDD but
| rather one in which you installed a HDD in a USB enclosure, jumper the HDD
| as Master (or Single if the HDD is a Western Digital disk). A number of
| users have reported that jumper configuration corrected their
| non-recognition problem. In my own experience it didn't seem to matter how
a
| USB external HDD was jumpered. But it may be worth a try.
| 11. If the device in question is a USB external HDD, first check out the
HDD
| with the hard drive manufacturer's diagnostic utility. If it checks out
OK,
| and you can remove the HDD from its enclosure (without voiding any
| applicable warranty), do so and install the HDD as an internal HDD to
| determine if there are problems with the drive.
| 12. If the USB device is connected to a USB 2.0 PCI card, try changing the
| PCI slot to which it's currently connected to another one.
| 13. Access the website of the manufacturer of the USB device to determine
if
| there's any firmware update or info re the problem you're experiencing or
| there's any possibility that the USB enclosure itself might be defective.
| 14. Determine from the manufacturer of your motherboard whether there's a
| BIOS upgrade affecting USB device recognition.
|
| P.S.
| A number of posters have reported they've found useful information re
| troubleshooting USB devices on this
| site...http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html
|
| In your situation, assuming the problem can't be resolved in the near
| future, since the device in question is one you recently purchased from
| newegg, whether it would be best to simply RMA it back to them as a
| defective device. But if you *are* able to resolve the problem and get the
| device consistently functioning, please keep us informed on how you
| accomplished it.
| Anna
|
|
|
| "Vernon GT" wrote in message
|
| > Anna,
| > I neglected to mention that I also have a "SimpleTech" 256Mb Flash Drive
| > and
| > a "Sony" 128Mb "Micro Vault" Flash Drive and they both work where this
| > "Newegg" 8Gb Flash Drive doesn't.
| > This PC is a AMD 1Gb (about 4 yrs old). I also have a new Dimension E521
| > (XP
| > Pro) Dual Core AMD and it 'kinda' works in it.
| > In addition, I have a Dell Latitude (Pentium III) and have similar
| > problems.
| > My Computer on both the Latitude and the AMD 1Gb don't indicate any
| > existance of the "Removable Drive" device.
| > On my Dell Dimension E521 'Dual Core AMD 64) it works as it should. The
| > "Thumb Drive" shows as "Thumb Drive E:\Removable Disk" within 'My
| > Computer'
| > Cheers again.
| > Vernon
| >
| >
| > "Anna" wrote:
| >
| >>
| >> "Vernon GT" wrote in message
| >>
| >> > G'day Rick,
| >> > Here I was yesterday thinking the I, "Robinson Crusoe" was alone with
| >> > this
| >> > problem. I just purchased a "Hi-Speed USB 2.0 Flash Drive" from New
| >> > Egg,
| >> > which on the "blurb" card in the packaging states "Fully Compatible
| >> > with
| >> > USB
| >> > 1.1 and Hi-Speed USB 2.0"
| >> > Even if my computer only had USB 1.1 controllers, it should work?
| >> > Right?
| >> > Wrong!!!
| >> > Same Schmidt... Different Day!!!
| >> > The reason I purchased this "Thumb Drive" was so I could carry big
gobs
| >> > of
| >> > files (mainly photos) in my pocket as I traveled and be able to stuff
| >> > my
| >> > 'drive' into someone else's USB port and show them my photo
collection
| >> > etc.
| >> > Chee!
| >> > Have you or anyone else come up with some kind of answer to this
| >> > problem
| >> > and
| >> > also, will I constantly have this issue with every other computer I
| >> > stick
| >> > my
| >> > "Thumb" into? Have I purchased a 'high-priced' lure for my next bass
| >> > fishing
| >> > trip or what?
| >> > Can you Rick, or anyone else email me if you have a fix?
| >> > Vernon
| >> >
| >> >
| >> > "rickbrem" wrote:
| >> >
| >> >> Using XP. When I try to install a USB 2.0 Flash Drive I get an
error
| >> >> message
| >> >> telling me that I need a hi-speed controller. Can anyone tell me
what
| >> >> this
| >> >> means, how I do it? (Before I updated from ME to XP, this flash
drive
| >> >> worked!)
| >> >> Many thanks.
| >> >> --
| >> >> Richard Gruen
| >>
| >>
| >> Vernon:
| >> I don't think this refers to the precise problem you're raising but
take
| >> a
| >> look at this anyway...
| >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;835967
| >>
| >> So what *is* your precise problem? You insert the flash drive into one
of
| >> your USB ports and nothing? The system doesn't recognize its existence?
| >> Not
| >> listed in Windows Explorer? No "Safely Remove Hardware" icon in the
| >> notification area of your Desktop?
| >>
| >> Have other USB devices that you use work? A USB printer? Camera?
| >> Whatever?
| >>
| >> Assuming you have more than one USB port on your computer, the same
| >> problem
| >> regardless of whether the device is plugged into another USB port?
| >>
| >> Have you tried the device in another computer? Think it might be just a
| >> simple matter of a defective device?
| >>
| >> Some of these flash drives have a tiny switch on the device (barely
| >> recognizable) that, in effect, "turns off" the device. Can you check
| >> that?
| >>
| >> When you access Device Manager, any clue in the USB controllers
section?
| >> Anna
| >>
| >>
| >>
|
|
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Since: Oct 26, 2005
Posts: 27



(Msg. 26) Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:50 pm
Post subject: Re: USB Flash Drive [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I have seen the 'this device can perform faster' message, I just cancel it
and the drive works fine, just at the USB 1 speed.
Unless you want to physically add a USB2 compatible port, you can usually
use the device, it just isn't as fast as it could be.
If the device is drawing too much power, you can try plugging it into a rear
port or (in some cases) a POWERED USB hub.

--
A Professional Amateur...If anyone knew it all, none of would be here!

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"Vernon GT" wrote in message

> G'day Anna,
> When I first plug my Flash Drive into the USB port, I get a balloon by the
> 'task tray' indicating "This Device can perform faster" (click here).
> Upon clicking that balloon, I get a 'tree' of USB controller and ports
> (similar to what you see in Device Mgr). My USB Mass Storage Device is
> highlighted, and above that list is a comment: "There are no HI-SPEED USB
> host controllers on this computer." and below the list is the
> 'recommendation' that indicates "I must add a HI_SPEED USB host controller
> to
> this computer to obtain Maximum performance."
> My question is How do I add such a controller?
> I checked in Device Mgr and the "USB Mass Storage Device" has a yellow (!)
> over the USB icon at left. Upon 'right clicking' and choosing "Properties"
> I
> see in the 'General tab' under Device status the comment "This device
> cannot
> start (Code 10), which to a layman computer user such as I doesn't help
> much.
> I know my way round a computer fairly (small 'f') well, but as for adding
> a
> HI-SPEED USB Host Controller, I don't know.
> Can you help here Anna? I'd be grateful.
>
>
>
> --
> Vernon
>
>
> "Anna" wrote:
>
>>
>> "Vernon GT" wrote in message
>>
>> > G'day Rick,
>> > Here I was yesterday thinking the I, "Robinson Crusoe" was alone with
>> > this
>> > problem. I just purchased a "Hi-Speed USB 2.0 Flash Drive" from New
>> > Egg,
>> > which on the "blurb" card in the packaging states "Fully Compatible
>> > with
>> > USB
>> > 1.1 and Hi-Speed USB 2.0"
>> > Even if my computer only had USB 1.1 controllers, it should work?
>> > Right?
>> > Wrong!!!
>> > Same Schmidt... Different Day!!!
>> > The reason I purchased this "Thumb Drive" was so I could carry big gobs
>> > of
>> > files (mainly photos) in my pocket as I traveled and be able to stuff
>> > my
>> > 'drive' into someone else's USB port and show them my photo collection
>> > etc.
>> > Chee!
>> > Have you or anyone else come up with some kind of answer to this
>> > problem
>> > and
>> > also, will I constantly have this issue with every other computer I
>> > stick
>> > my
>> > "Thumb" into? Have I purchased a 'high-priced' lure for my next bass
>> > fishing
>> > trip or what?
>> > Can you Rick, or anyone else email me if you have a fix?
>> > Vernon
>> >
>> >
>> > "rickbrem" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Using XP. When I try to install a USB 2.0 Flash Drive I get an error
>> >> message
>> >> telling me that I need a hi-speed controller. Can anyone tell me what
>> >> this
>> >> means, how I do it? (Before I updated from ME to XP, this flash drive
>> >> worked!)
>> >> Many thanks.
>> >> --
>> >> Richard Gruen
>>
>>
>> Vernon:
>> I don't think this refers to the precise problem you're raising but take
>> a
>> look at this anyway...
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;835967
>>
>> So what *is* your precise problem? You insert the flash drive into one of
>> your USB ports and nothing? The system doesn't recognize its existence?
>> Not
>> listed in Windows Explorer? No "Safely Remove Hardware" icon in the
>> notification area of your Desktop?
>>
>> Have other USB devices that you use work? A USB printer? Camera?
>> Whatever?
>>
>> Assuming you have more than one USB port on your computer, the same
>> problem
>> regardless of whether the device is plugged into another USB port?
>>
>> Have you tried the device in another computer? Think it might be just a
>> simple matter of a defective device?
>>
>> Some of these flash drives have a tiny switch on the device (barely
>> recognizable) that, in effect, "turns off" the device. Can you check
>> that?
>>
>> When you access Device Manager, any clue in the USB controllers section?
>> Anna
>>
>>
>>
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Since: Oct 15, 2006
Posts: 38



(Msg. 27) Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:05 am
Post subject: Re: USB Flash Drive [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"NotMe" wrote in message

>I have seen the 'this device can perform faster' message, I just cancel it
>and the drive works fine, just at the USB 1 speed.
> Unless you want to physically add a USB2 compatible port, you can usually
> use the device, it just isn't as fast as it could be.
> If the device is drawing too much power, you can try plugging it into a
> rear port or (in some cases) a POWERED USB hub.
>
> --
> A Professional Amateur...If anyone knew it all, none of would be here!
>
> Change Alpha to Numeric to reply
> "Vernon GT" wrote in message
>
>> G'day Anna,
>> When I first plug my Flash Drive into the USB port, I get a balloon by
>> the
>> 'task tray' indicating "This Device can perform faster" (click here).
>> Upon clicking that balloon, I get a 'tree' of USB controller and ports
>> (similar to what you see in Device Mgr). My USB Mass Storage Device is
>> highlighted, and above that list is a comment: "There are no HI-SPEED USB
>> host controllers on this computer." and below the list is the
>> 'recommendation' that indicates "I must add a HI_SPEED USB host
>> controller to
>> this computer to obtain Maximum performance."
>> My question is How do I add such a controller?
>> I checked in Device Mgr and the "USB Mass Storage Device" has a yellow
>> (!)
>> over the USB icon at left. Upon 'right clicking' and choosing
>> "Properties" I
>> see in the 'General tab' under Device status the comment "This device
>> cannot
>> start (Code 10), which to a layman computer user such as I doesn't help
>> much.
>> I know my way round a computer fairly (small 'f') well, but as for adding
>> a
>> HI-SPEED USB Host Controller, I don't know.
>> Can you help here Anna? I'd be grateful.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Vernon
>>
>>
>> "Anna" wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Vernon GT" wrote in message
>>>
>>> > G'day Rick,
>>> > Here I was yesterday thinking the I, "Robinson Crusoe" was alone with
>>> > this
>>> > problem. I just purchased a "Hi-Speed USB 2.0 Flash Drive" from New
>>> > Egg,
>>> > which on the "blurb" card in the packaging states "Fully Compatible
>>> > with
>>> > USB
>>> > 1.1 and Hi-Speed USB 2.0"
>>> > Even if my computer only had USB 1.1 controllers, it should work?
>>> > Right?
>>> > Wrong!!!
>>> > Same Schmidt... Different Day!!!
>>> > The reason I purchased this "Thumb Drive" was so I could carry big
>>> > gobs of
>>> > files (mainly photos) in my pocket as I traveled and be able to stuff
>>> > my
>>> > 'drive' into someone else's USB port and show them my photo collection
>>> > etc.
>>> > Chee!
>>> > Have you or anyone else come up with some kind of answer to this
>>> > problem
>>> > and
>>> > also, will I constantly have this issue with every other computer I
>>> > stick
>>> > my
>>> > "Thumb" into? Have I purchased a 'high-priced' lure for my next bass
>>> > fishing
>>> > trip or what?
>>> > Can you Rick, or anyone else email me if you have a fix?
>>> > Vernon
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "rickbrem" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Using XP. When I try to install a USB 2.0 Flash Drive I get an error
>>> >> message
>>> >> telling me that I need a hi-speed controller. Can anyone tell me
>>> >> what
>>> >> this
>>> >> means, how I do it? (Before I updated from ME to XP, this flash
>>> >> drive
>>> >> worked!)
>>> >> Many thanks.
>>> >> --
>>> >> Richard Gruen
>>>
>>>
>>> Vernon:
>>> I don't think this refers to the precise problem you're raising but take
>>> a
>>> look at this anyway...
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;835967
>>>
>>> So what *is* your precise problem? You insert the flash drive into one
>>> of
>>> your USB ports and nothing? The system doesn't recognize its existence?
>>> Not
>>> listed in Windows Explorer? No "Safely Remove Hardware" icon in the
>>> notification area of your Desktop?
>>>
>>> Have other USB devices that you use work? A USB printer? Camera?
>>> Whatever?
>>>
>>> Assuming you have more than one USB port on your computer, the same
>>> problem
>>> regardless of whether the device is plugged into another USB port?
>>>
>>> Have you tried the device in another computer? Think it might be just a
>>> simple matter of a defective device?
>>>
>>> Some of these flash drives have a tiny switch on the device (barely
>>> recognizable) that, in effect, "turns off" the device. Can you check
>>> that?
>>>
>>> When you access Device Manager, any clue in the USB controllers section?
>>> Anna
>>>
You might consider adding a USB 2.0 card and then plug the drive into one of
the ports (usually 2) that come with it. Then if you need more ports you can
add a powered USB 2 add-on unit which usually gives you up to 7 additional
ports.

Regards,
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